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    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    the mob should kill nutjob tonight, then pilchard, then nutjob, randomly until they get one. before it is too late.

    obviously if it gets down to nutjob pilchard and bgk they win.

    fortunately we have a few nights to get pilchard or nut....whew

    lets see sami, bar, fan, torch that's four that pilchard can lynch

    that should be enough time to get nut or pilchard i hope.

    i hope ben figures this out and tells bgk to only hit pilch or nut the rest of the game.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    this is too crazy. i think i'm wrong but will think about it. if we hit nut tonight then we hit sami he is the next sure innocent. so if pilch protects him he gains the least info, just like last night. if pilch doesn't protect him, bingo, one more for our side.

    we don't ever try for pilch or maybe randomly...i'm confused...waiting to see who pilchard lynches tonight. has to be ben, right?
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006 edited
    here's what i think will happen

    i have no idea what pilchard will do before the witching hour.

    at 1:45pm ET nutjob will spill his cuts.
    sami may do the same

    at 1:55 pm pilchard will come on and lynch someone

    at 1:59 pm pilchard will come on and reveal the truth about last night. he will say, last night i protected nut, they tried to hit nut, so nut is 100% inno. if i get hit tonight I pass the torch to him
    nut you will only be the mayor for one day because the mob will rub you out the next night if we haven't won by then
    gl all
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    VERY interesting comment by fan, and makes him look innocent. pilchard has dangled the bait out there to get the mafia to gang up on a pick.

    What fan fails to realize is that pilchard is just using this as a ploy as another clue to out the mob.

    ben and bgk both never changed their lists...nobody did. pilchard foiled except fan now looks innocent or very very crafty.
    He's hitting BGK. The mafia is toast.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    no not necessarily
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    if ben thinks we are toast he hits pilchard. if not he hits nut

    nut is very suspicious of sami

    i consider it a HUGE compliment that pilchard said that this COT is a dot. that makes the whole game for me

    also, remember pilchard said he is voting BGK, That is NOT a fact BGK should stay out of it.

    or if he comes in say...hope pilchard you learn a lot out of this NO MORE!
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    pilchard said he is hitting BGK

    What if he is lying........................hmmmmmmmmmmm ?!

    Great game.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    nside hasn't this turned into an absolutely fantastic game again?
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006 edited
    nside i want to tell you this....

    i didn't think of it until now but i want you to know....i can't imagine this matters
    and certainly thought this was not remotely a violation of the rules...can't be can it?

    1) i pmed angel after she was dead and said gg
    2) i pmed fumseck after he was dead and said gg and shut up
    3) i pmed nutjob after i was dead and he had said gg to me and i said gg to him, now i'll shut up

    i can't imagine any of this matters and it didn't occur to me that it might because in each case exactly one of the players was dead, but just so you know

    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    ok he wasn't lying. we are down to ben

    ben v. pilchard and/or nutjob

    we are not through yet!
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    ben will be a worthy opponent v. the town, don't ya think?


    go ben!
    Ben has been a great player, but I think it will too easy to pick him out. He has done a great job of covering his tracks in the past three or four days.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    don't get me wrong...we are clear underdogs obviously. If ben thinks it is desperation time he has to hit pilchard. otherwise nutjob.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    actually the hit is pilchard to me....and pretty clear

    well maybe not lol

    i give up...go ben

    either way I am so happy about this i'll shut up for a while, my guess is ben will use 4 hours to figure out his pick anyway

    I think he should hit Sami.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    no way

    hit bar or fan

    but he can't afford to hit nut or pilch. plus i want nut to keep playing he is great

    hit FAN, his cred is HUGE NOW

    actually sami is OK now that i think of it
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    actually i don't know, you do of course nside, who he protected. the point was that he had to leave nut and pilch alone and take out a pretty likely innocent. I think FAN is HUGE CRED and bar is in australia so take out fan. bar doesn't say much cause he goes to bed

    actually i think fan is prettty good, quite good, and obviously innocent.

    but this makes it interresting lol. pilch and nut in the game. lol I'm gonna love it.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    this is not that bad actually. goes back to a point i made a while ago. it will be easier for ben to survive the day with more suspects.

    yesterday ben or bgk were going for sure, and i was hoping bgk. either one of them or fan. the three who voted for san

    torch has a lot of explaining to do.....and i told ben that not only was torch lurking the san/wynton day. but he was also lurking another day, later, when pilch wanted info...he came in with like 1/2 hour to go, lurked and left.

    i pray to god that nutjob, as obsessed as he is, knows this too. now i told ben not to come out with that knowledge, but to be aware of it.

    like ask torch.
    torch, you lurked during the san affair. did you lurk late any other day???? hummm??

    i left a lot for ben to look over ... he might be able to use something who knows.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    nside, i need to know the limits that i can encourage, console, etc.

    can i say

    it's all right ben

    hang in there ben

    just keep trying ben

    don't worry ben

    you're doing great!

    how about

    just take it easy ben
    enjoy this
    you can do it
    don't WORRY
    think it through

    I need to know my limit....

    thanks nside.

    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    he's so dejected i need to lift his spirits.
    I'm OK with any one of those. Don't post every hour with a different one.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    Here's what i propose. I won't send it without your ok

    Ben, remember when I was down and then we said, "We will not give in even if we have one chip left in the WSOP. Hang in there."

    That's it nside, how is that?

    I won't post any more until after a lynching. Then only one a day as long as he's in.

    that would be fine
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006
    let's see

    mon pilchard misses ben kills 5 people remain
    tue pilcard misses ben kills 3 people remain

    they can't both be pilchard and nut remaining or town wins

    wed pilchard misses we win

    in a sense ben had one free kill , as long as he doesn't miss again

    but he must kill pilch or nut the next two days. i think he will figure it out

    I think pilchard realizes he made a mistake two nights ago. however he put him self in great shape by protecting nut.

    no way was he going to do anything but protect himself last kill. that would have been totally silly.

    so ben could hit anyone he wanted. i would probably have hit nutjob to get that out of the way. he has to remove a COTer.

    pilchard attempt, unfortunately, was clearly an error
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2006 edited
    So tomorrow pilchard kills torch or ben
    we will see.

    and the next day ben if he misses later today

    the only hope is that ben hits fan tomorrow after pilchard kills torch. the fan move will have pilchard perplexed and pts more to sami

    why kill fan? well if sami is the mafioso then he wants pilchard to kill ben

    the scenario if sami is the mafioso

    mon pilchard lynches torch sami kills fan
    tue pilchard kills sami (oops) ben kills nutjob
    wed pilchard kills ben or bar

    nope no way we can win regardless

    but gg

    Now I actually think ben made the correct decision. We can't win with pilchard in the game so he had to go for pilchard.

    Unfortunately he had to go for pilchard the night before. then we DO have a decent chance. If ben had only been around.........i could have suggested it to him and he could have thought about it for 4 hours. nutjob's post could actually have done them in....before I die i explain it to ben, he thinks it through and hits pilchard and BINGO, off to the races.
    I think Ben was in big trouble no matter what. The 1:1,000 shot to hit pilchard may have been the best hope. I think pilchard trusts Sami and nutjob completely, which means not enough nights for Ben, I thnik.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006 edited
    here is Ben's only chance. He has got to attack sami and torch. but especially sami. He has to come right out and say, "I know I look like public enemy #1 but please listen to this pilchard and nut"

    And then say, "fan is obvioulsy innocent from his recent posts. no doubt about it. just think about it" bar is the other total innocent.

    that leaves sami, torch, and me.

    Now i'll go through the torch reasons. blah blah blah
    Noe i'll go throught the sami reasons. blah blah blah

    the only way you can possibly lose at this pt, nut and pilch, is if sami is the mafioso. lynch sami and the game is over at sundown.

    hope, hope, hope. lol


    there are actually a lot of sneaky reasons to think sami could be the Donnie Brasco.

    1) I ask sami to decide Icall or wynton
    2) i put sami on the innocent list with nut and fumseck
    3) i keep saying sami, i know you are innoc

    blah blah

    4) sami tells san to spill his guts in the san/elmo, then switches back once he realizes that san won't bite

    this is fun....
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    ben should actually speculate on the pilcard move last night.

    Pilch here's my thought on that. You protected nut AGAIN and just brilliant. See the mafioso would realize that he is total toast without hitting you or nut. He's got to reduce COT. But it is totally obvious that you protect yourself last night. Totally. Since he knows that he goes for nut again. But you brilliantly out think him again and protect nut. Great pilch, great.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006

    better strategy for ben

    pilch, the only way you can lose this is to lynch


    and sami be the mafioso

    this is a reason to lynch sami tonight. nut, am I flawed in this argument?
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    another suspicious sami

    why did he say he would be back in 24 hrs? he has been around ALL the time?
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006 edited
    ok i conjectured on my lynching.

    now your summary of the game...


    deletes still allowed in this game lol
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    and the Whale was great too in a cameo
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    rats another post that went "poof"

    ok again

    i put our chances back up again to about 1%

    nut has to convince pilchard to kill someone other than ben. i don't know how but nut has to.

    i hope they lynch sami...then we go on from there.
    then i pray to god that ben realizes that he must kill nut. finally pilchard WILL stay home the rest of the game and nut has to go because he is in the COT

    and pilchard is right, and i already realized this, we LOST the RNG....
    pilchard is fantastic, but the move to nut WAS a big mistake
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    wonder what ben is thinking...i wish he would post, however it is better for himself to be thinking now.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    i really can't guess at ben's line of thinking any more because i have been warped, nside, by

    drumroll please


    thanks for posting here has made it much more fun for me.

    other mafia dead...where are you? your thoughts?
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    i really think pilchard should lynch sami or fan, probably fan. that is what i would do.

    now i do think that ben is the most likely mafioso, but like fan said...once sami or fan are lynched they enter the COT although they are mute till the end of the game.

    hope someone brings this point out. fan already did before.

    please miss pilchard....this would be great to go one more day

    ben has to kill nutjob or pilchard tonight....and my hit is nutjob. he has to get it right soon of the game is over.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    we should have all jumped on the tp lynching at the time of the great san/wynton shoot out.

    yes wynton and paul are toast but it gives ben and me super cover.

    but pilchard should be thinking-- why would they be so dumb as to have ALL their players on san. that would be really dumb

    <well it was really dumb because we were still learning the game>

    i mean they should have put one on early, fan, and had one in reserve...

    i think pilchard may tell fan to take one for the team. that will give him lots of into

    who knows? but it is true.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    pilchard might actually suspect ben the most, but if he is wrong then he is in trouble. better to lynch fan to get more into and decide later....
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006 edited
    what a post from ben!! ben is our MVP, no question.

    now if he can just figure out how to vote as well as he posts.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    how to vote to KILL of course
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    ben should vote to kill nut until he hits him and then vote to kill pilchard the rest of the way. vote is easy.
    It is looking very grim for Ben.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    yes it is, but he did all he could. great game ben!
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006 edited
    ..well ben could have taken pilch out two nights ago, but that would have been way too hard to figure out. I took the late nutjob death bed "stream of thought" to move the kill to pilch moved to nut

    warning to future players....never assume you have figured out who to kill. take the full four hours every time. review the final hour of posts very carefully

    we blew that twice...when we killed ogre. when we tried to kill nut and pilch protected
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006 edited
    i am very proud of the mob

    we failed to hit the Detective
    we failed to hit the Doctor
    san, a terrific player, was the Detective
    Pilchard was the Doctor
    We kept the COT very small
    We learned a lot on the fly and finally got it down, but it was too late
    I had a ball with wynton's antics.
    I had a ball with all of our team: elmo, wynton, tall paul, bgk and ben.
    You guys were all marvelous

    And I can't wait to talk wth

    suited (suited ?? yes of course)

    ....but most of all nutjob

    great game all,

    yes you are right is way harder to be a mobster than you can possibly imagine. I averaged about 3 hours sleep per night until I went mad and slit my throat.


    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    nside this game might not be over yet.......... :)
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    another good post by ben i think. i might have never posted again, but this perhaps is even better

    yes, i think so, if ben is innocent he is certainly around...if guilty he would probably just shut up.
    He just went from 0% to 1%. I don't think pilchard is even on-line. If only he could have killed pilchard he might have been able to fool people. His posts after San's lynching were extraordinary.
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
    yep extraodinary posts by ben...way to go

    what a game! gg all

    will be great to be able to talk with everyone now.