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  1.  
    I hate your RNG Nside. :bigsmile:
  2.  
    Pie we need to discuss - obv - once you rise for the day ...

    NSIDE: there are a few different scenarios where there could be 1 mafia and 1 wolf left standing when the dust settles from tonight... who wins? I vote original mafia of course. RNG for the whole ball of wax???
  3.  
    I'm here, but forum very flakey
  4.  
    Lol, now the ITH forum has gone for a barton
  5.  
    I'm at a loss as to how we should play this today ... it's going to be wild ....
  6.  
    Mob hit Nut, I kill Pizza, Pizza kills me, 50/50 either town/mafia or town/wolf 2:1.

    Mob hit Nut, I kill Pizza, pizza kills innocent, 50/50 either mafia win or a town/mafia 2:1

    Mob hit innocent, we kill Pizza, Pizza kills me, 50/50 either mafia win or town/mafia 2:1

    Mob hit innocent, we kill pizza, pizza kills innocent, mafia win


    Is that right? Of course, all this assumes Pizza is the wolf.
  7.  
    Assuming Pizza is wolf and I get lynched....

    You kill Pizza, Pizza kills cyb or pack, we win.
  8.  
    Or is pizza's kill up to the RNG in that case?

    If it is and it failed, he'd be dead with you and pack and cyb alive ... one last vote

    ... I gotta re-read the rules or maybe NSide should clarify on the thread....
  9.  
    I'm no longer sure pizza is the wolf :shamed:
  10.  
    I don't think he is ... I think BD may have gone after Packone as he has been on the BD train the whole game, no?

    You keep rubbing elbows with Pizza ... I still think we'll have to get my lynched .. unless there's an obvious railroad of an innocent/wolf
  11.  
    If it is 1 vs 1 vs 1 tomorrow, is it a draw or a kingmaker game?
  12.  
    I actually think you may well end up getting labelled the wolf.
  13.  
    that would be funny ..... :bigsmile: ...
  14.  
    WTF is pizza talking about? Is he coming out as the wolf???
  15.  
    Pie I think it's in our best interests tomorrow (for me, later tonight for you )if you say the mafia is two scenarios:

    Nut and Cyb or Nut and Pack ...

    Pack will think it's cyb and cyb will think it's pack .....

    the real question is how hard do I push for you?

    I think you gotta push hard for me ... your two innos and a wolf comment was strange to me... meh ...

    I think I may have to make myself look dirty even more tomorrow.... but let's see what Pack and cyb chime in with...

    Piza DOES NOT think I'm inno, no matter his little games....
  16.  
    I'm out for the night in the game thread ... will be in here for a little bit...

    You realize we already won this game, but Nside's RNG machine was rigged by Horse.
  17.  
    Godzilla:I'm out for the night in the game thread ... will be in here for a little bit...

    You realize we already won this game, but Nside's RNG machine was rigged by Horse.


    lol
  18.  
    Pizza thinks pack is 100 percent guilty ... with nut or cyb

    Pack thinks cyb is 100 percent guilty.. with nut

    cyb thinks pack is guilty ... with nut
  19.  
    Now, I'm out of this thread ...visitor beckons...

    If there is a landlslide for me tomorrow, so be it .. we'll have to take our lumps again ...

    cheers Pie!
  20.  

    I think you gotta push hard for me ... your two innos and a wolf comment was strange to me... meh ...


    Yeah I kind of regret that one now. I was trying to look at the action through an innocents eyes and that is what I came up with. I had t keep the conversation spontaneous inthe hope pizza made the wrong decision (whatever it was that he was trying to say)
  21.  
    Pie, chew on this ... if I come into the thread I have to list you and cyb/pack as mafia ......

    Or I list you and Pizza and get insta-lynched...

    I've been on you the whole game .... what if someone calls my bluff and says let's vote Pie?

    I don't think it would carry, but, in this game, who knows?

    I guess in the long run it would be the same as me getting voted off .... except the new wolf would have a weird decision...

    but if I say you and X (pack or cyb) they will want to vote me and everyone will pile on me and I die ... then our new wolf has to kill someone .... the question is do we look too obvious that I voted for you when it's revealed that I'm mafia? ... if I vote pack or cyb .. will you look dirty? will my vote for pack or cyb make them look dirty, or will it make the guy I didn't vote for look dirty?

    If pack is the new wolf I think he'd kill cyb...

    if cyb is the new wolf, I think he'd kill pack...

    if pizza is the new wolf I think he'd kill one of those two. ...

    you should really lay down that you will probably vote for me almost no matter what....

    meh, I officially hate this particular game and want my mommy ... I gotta get some sleep and then come out with something ... If there is already a bandwagon for me, STAY ON ME and I may remain completely silent so as not to give them any info at all.
  22.  
    Pie, I think you've cocked up your last post.....

    Innocent lynched ... mafia kills wolf, wolf kills mafia, leaves 1 mafia, 1 innocent = mafia wins

    and I don't even think the RNG would allow a wolf/mafia kill tonight... I think the RNG gives one (mafia or wolf) precedence ... although since there are two mafia, even if they went second, their kill should go through.... which would still leave 1 mafia, 1 innocent = mafia wins

    gah, dunno ... bad plan ... we definitely (as innocents) can't lynch the wolf or the mafia wins...
  23.  
    nevermind, you fixed it, and who knows, maybe you did it on purpose :wink:
  24.  
    How much do we want to know who the wolf is?

    I could claim. They could not lynch me or the wolf would have to come out - either by vote or by super doubt?????
  25.  
    Yes, I would like to get back on you as soon as possible. I am hoping that the conclusion to my current line of discussion will be that BD didn't hit you last night, so I can get back to my anti-Nutjob fervour.
  26.  
    Ah, good build-up ....
  27.  
    Sorry I was out the den, I assumed you were in bed :)
  28.  
    But he thought I was mafia --- along with Packone ....

    this is becoming very, very sick. Thanks Nside.
  29.  
    I was, couldn't sleep...
  30.  
    I think we are overcomplicating things here. Whoever the wolf is doesn't know I am mafia. Tonight they will be trying to hit a mafia so I should be okay. If we lynch you today and the wolves kill me tonight, then meh good game, we did all we could.

    Personally I think you shouldn't say much at all today. I think any interaction you have with me can only worsen my positision once you are dead.
  31.  
    In fact, your absense would be an excellent excuse for me to lead a charge for you, under the guise that you are clearly trying to lay low so we forget about you.
  32.  
    OK, that was my San moment for the day (hi San! :swingin:) .... I have a feeling I'm staying silent, but we'll see ...

    NSIDESTRATE: Please read this and tell me if I have the RNG possibilities right for the second, third, and last two scenarios.

    Here are all the scenarios (I think) if I am lynched (about 99.89 percent right now)

    you hit wolf, wolf hits inno............................................................... we win 1-1 vs. inno (WE WANT THIS ONE)
    you hit wolf, wolf hits you..... we lose RNG for first kill, we lose game ............2 innos, 1 wolf fight it out (TERRIBLE)
    you hit wolf, wolf hits you......we win RNG for first kill, we win game..... ........2 innos, 1 you fight it out (NOT TERRIBLE)
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    you hit inno, wolf hits you .............................................................. we lose, wolf wins 1-1 (TERRIBLE)
    you hit inno, wolf hits inno .............................................................. it's 1-1 you and a wolf left standing (RNG) ?
    you hit inno, wolf hits same inno ....................................................... it's 1-1-1 (RNG, another lynch race) ?

    The point is Pie......

    if you hit an inno, we lose in one scenario, go to a 50-50 RNG in the second scenario and go to a 3-way RNG in the third scenario. Not good odds.
    If you hit a wolf, we win in one scenario and go to a 50-50 RNG for a loss or one more lynch day in the other sceanrio .........

    So, as we already know, it's pretty important to find out that wolf. Now, if you keep digging around like crazy, that might become apparent to a certain Pizzaman ...

    But if I am on the lynch bandwagon, and stay totally silent except for a late "I'm the wolf" type post, we may get to know who our wolfie is.

    And then again, if all fails, yes, a big old, "meh, gg" is definitely in order. :boogie:
  33.  
    Agreed ... I've thought it best I stay completely out of the thread and take me lynchin like a man ...
  34.  
    OK, I'm really going off to sleep for a few hours ........ I will NOT play the next mafia game... (someone please hold me to that) :crazy:
  35.  
    For the record I hate an extension to Wed a.m. ...
  36.  
    Actually a fake wolf claim at the 11th hour could be golden :)
  37.  
    The big lizard seems to have it right.
  38.  
    I have started the anti-Nutjob charge
  39.  
    Hey just awoke and got caught up on the thread ..... not much goings on ...

    Wouldn't you say it's very unlikely packone is the new wolf and it's almost a dead-lock to be pizza?? He practically admitted it yesterday right off the bat??

    I've almost completely ruled cyb out ... although of course, he's a f-ing smart m-er, f-er and knows his pie very, very well .......

    IF I come into the thread at all ...... a BIG IF, it will be a wolfy claim .... you can choose to respond or ignore ...

    As of right now, I don't see a pizza wolf hitting you in the night ...

    Pack looks guilty enough - especially since I would send him out to plop a vote for me....

    cyb looks guilty enough - especially since he is hesitant to plop a vote down for me ...

    I wonder if you have to make some noise about whom the other mafia is .... your call obv ...

    the last question in my head is ... if I am mafia (well, duh) why am I being quiet? ... is it because I'm happy with the town's overall perception of who is innocent or because I don't want to do anything to make my fellow pack or cyb look dirty?

    eenie-meenie, miney-mo catch a mafia by the toe, if he hollers let him go ... my mother told me to pick the very best one and (blank) is it .....
  40.  
    the only thing about my wolfy claim is it would put you in a weird spot where you might have to respond ...... meh, maybe silence is golden ....
  41.  
    heh, the lookers-on will be fairly disappointed with today's proceedings ... sorry bout that everyone.
  42.  
    Seems I forgot 2 final scenarios ....

    you hit wolf, wolf NO KILLS ............................................................... 2 innos vs. 1 you
    you hit inno, wolf NO KILLS ............................................................... 1-1-1 ....

    ok, not terrible and not likely.... nm
  43.  
    Thank you cyb for looking ultra mafia-ish with your almost conciliatory vote for me!
  44.  
    I hate to do this to you, but I take back my cyb can't be wolf stance... (for now, obv)
  45.  
    Pie ... everyone should be fairly quiet waiting for me to post some nonsense now that Pizza has made it unanimous .... this is a good thing....
  46.  
    meh ... it's gotta be pizza and he must be killed...

    great game btw P-man! :clap:
  47.  
    Pie, I will be out of pocket until the last 45 mins... or so ... not that it matters....
  48.  
    I think Pizza is 90% the wolf. BD was trying to recruit, that's why he tried to hit me the night before. I don't think he thinks about this game on the level I credited him for earlier.
  49.  
    Godzilla:Seems I forgot 2 final scenarios ....

    you hit wolf, wolf NO KILLS ............................................................... 2 innos vs. 1 you
    you hit inno, wolf NO KILLS ............................................................... 1-1-1 ....

    ok, not terrible and not likely.... nm


    Not likely? Surely if we 'win' the RNG then one of these will definitely occur. And by win I mean actually lose because we probably want te wolf to kill tonight.
  50.  
    If it ends up 1 vs 1 vs 1 I really don't think the game should be played out. It should either be declared a draw or a Wolf/Mafia win. Having the remaining innocent decide which of the two mafia teams wins seems a bit rubbish to me.

    Same with a Mafia/Wolf 1 vs 1, an RNG for the win would be a rubbish way of deciding a great game. A draw would be far more honourable.