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    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    bahhh, he is not the deputy :(
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    NJ- not the deputy
    San-
    Fojar
    Wes- not the deputy
    JaneG- not the deputy
    Fenris-not the deputy
    BadGirldre-not the deputy

    Sooooooooooooooo, san or fojar? Firstly, we have to evaluate whether or not we truly think that the ones we have eliminated we have done so without them pulling the wool over our eyes.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    the only one out of the these that I could potentially see as doing this would be NJ, but I truly think he is just an insane detective. I think we can spin Fojar into being lynched and feel he is much less of a threat to us right now than San. Even with San having very limited access, I think he needs to go.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    Nside, what timeframe are we dealing with today that you would like to have your night actions?
  1.  
    Scrote says:
    well I like San tonight for a coupla reasons
    Scrote says:
    It'll drive NJ over the edge for still being alive and
    Scrote says:
    BBW and BGD will jump straight after him
    MX says:
    there's no way I support a NJ hit tonight
    MX says:
    it's either San or Fojar in my opinion
    MX says:
    and of those 2, I prefer San for the reasons I stated in the den

    Scrote says:
    ok, so if its San, we want him to be the deputy right ?
    MX says:
    yes
    Scrote says:
    and if he is the detective, the deputy gets all the detectives reults
    MX says:
    no
    MX says:
    the deputy only gets the results IF they find the detective before the detective dies
    Scrote says:
    do you think we give pack any cover by taking San over fojar ?
    MX says:
    not really. You have to remember, we are looking at this as 1 of 2 people. The town has to look at all the possibilities that are out there. Fojar has not been able to gain any ground with the town and I think I could have gotten him lynched today had I changed my vote 2 minutes earlier.
    Scrote says:
    So the only other question then is do we gain anything by leaving San alive and the possible town hysteria about a NJ/San den

    Scrote says:
    San didnt post at all today did he ?
    MX says:
    no
    MX says:
    I don't want to use the wait for him to get mod killed either by hoping he doesn't vote tomorrow either.
    Scrote says:
    ok that answers that question.
    MX says:
    heh
    MX says:
    I think a San hit would cause a bunch of confusion tomorrow honestly. Why wait until he had been the least active to kill him off?
  2.  
    Scrote says:
    Ok, San is AFK at the moment, but if he turns up we are likely to be in deep shit
    Scrote says:
    Fojar isnt getting anywhere and isnt posting enough to get any real traction or sway ppls minds
    Scrote says:
    so of the two that would suggest we take san and try and get a Fojar/NJ slate for tomorrow
    Scrote says:
    BGD and BBW will almost certainly go for NJ tomorrow
    Scrote says:
    Fojar will probably stay on pack
    MX says:
    the thing is, I don't want to eliminate NJ. I think it isin our best interest to keep him on for a while
    Scrote says:
    k if we can engineer a Fojar vote, who do we NK tomorrow ?
    Scrote says:
    bearing in mind that would leave us 4/3 ?
    Scrote says:
    I really dont want to see and end game of BGD BBW and me
    Scrote says:
    In fact I'm not entirely sure I even want to be in the end game
    MX says:
    I would think Jane at that point
    MX says:
    lol
    MX says:
    that would leave : NJ, BGD, BBW, Fenris, you, me and pack and then NJ goes to seal the deal.
    Scrote says:
    ok, Im fine with that
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    Wicked:Good luck on the day guys. I'll hopefully be home before we need to give nside a choice . If not, I would say San I guess. We desperately need to cfind the detective/deputy combo today. At least one of them :)


    San it is then, while hopefully accomplishing the deputy at the same time.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    NJ- not the deputy and not detective based on investigation results
    San-
    Fojar
    Wes- not the deputy
    JaneG- not the deputy
    Fenris-not the deputy
    BadGirldre-not the deputy


    Nut will be pushing hard for a reveal tomorrow and it is the right thing to do. Now, some of our investigations between the 3 of us have to include mafia members, but we do not know how this is revealed to the town, so we have to wait until someone puts one out there.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    WOOOOTAAAAAAAAAAAAA
  3.  
    Well, guess I have 1 more day to post. Time for me to have some fun in the game thread. I'm going to say nothing, but think I'll have some fun taunting the innocents. I'm more than glad to be outed if we get the detective. You guys stay active. Vile, you have a day or so left before you are going to get hammered. Evil, just keep up the good work. Keep hitting the best players. Make a list and take them down in order. The deputy doesn't matter anymore. I want to take a guess though. BGD is the deputy. Going to go read the thread and have some fun.
  4.  
    Wicked, enjoy the day, and if you stumble across anything post it in plenty of time. gg
  5.  
    Evil:
    Evil:Got your Night investigation list sorted ?

    Im going for

    N0 Wes Mafia
    N1 NJ Detective.

    N2 San Mafia.


    I'm gonna change these all to Dets, no one has posted saying what a mafia result looks like.

    N0 Wes Detective
    N1 NJ Detective
    N2 San Detecive
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    my problem is that I am running out of people to be accusing here: Now that pack is outed, I have to give Fojar a bit of inno points, I already have NJ and Jane as innocents, wes and bgd as looking good.....only leaves fen and scrote?
  6.  
    Well If needs be I am more than happy to take one for the team to give you cover
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    evil, stay out until someone posts a mafia. We can't have too many detective results.
  7.  
    too late, sorry
  8.  
    This is prime posting time for me, not posting would have been worse I think.
  9.  
    Nut needs to be the next hit , then Jane/Fojar , IMHO.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    why is that nut? Not saying you are wrong, but I really don't feel a threat from nut right now. That could change very quickly, but I just dont' see it. I think he is our biggest proponent right now.

    I'm more worried about BGD and Fojar right now.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2007
     
    we could have a problem also. If someone puts together how quickly the thread re-opened, they would logically place the people that were active at the end as the den members.
  10.  
    Possibly, that would exclude Jane Wes and Fojar, every one else has posted, you might be able to put a "why would the mafia need to post" slant on it though
  11.  
    It'll be interesting to see what fojar does today no that pack is a lock vote
  12.  
    I think we need to take out the experienced players. Nut thinks Vile is innocent and isn't hitting Evil much. Take nut out. The people he trusted will become more innocent. It will make Vile's road easier and Evil is still flying under the radar. That's my reasoning on why nut needs to go.

    After I go , and let's say Nut is the choice, the game is 5-2 I believe. Vile can become the leader of the town. Fenris is just looking for someone to follow. Town lynches an innocent, we hit fojar, game is 3-2 . Someone will attack Vile because he was leading the town and didn't get hit. If Vile can convince Fenris to stay with him, Evil jumps in with a late switch vote to wherever Vile is. Game over.
  13.  
    Vile, that post about San reminded me of some of Pizza's posts.
  14.  
    Nobody's posting . Better news for us good guys :smile:
  15.  
    Nside, please reserve me a spot in the dead thread
  16.  
    no posts in nearly 3 hours in the game thread . :bigsmile:
  17.  
    Vile, make sure you are prepared to defend yourself. Someone will ask you why you were undecided on me before today. Your background may not show it. You really only questioned me directly one time, and that was yesterday.
  18.  
    I'm gonna do my best to be in front of a pc by 4 pm. If the townies want to screw around and leave me alive, I'll hurt them with some late switcheroo.
  19.  
    Im trying to work out if we can get some leverage on Wes's dont lynch pack suggestion.

    I think for now just stick to posting insults and taunts, I'd love to see lots more.

    I also think you could have a significant last minute contribution yet...
  20.  
    I am about to goto work, but will do my best to be back at deadline. Let them screw around. We'll burn their arses.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    Nside, in the spirit of the game, I agreed that nothing should happen to wes for his mistake in editing, but this troubles me:

    Just so it is known and not taken the wrong way the only reason I know anything in the game is because the wife has read the end of day 3 to me while it was takeing place on the cell phone.


    This is strictly against the rules even if it is only her reading to him. No problems with it if they both were not in the game.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    oops, that is a quote from wes.
  21.  
    I'm not sure about that Vile. If she is only reading that which is publicly posted, is that a rules violation?

    The problem with husband/wife duos is that it is difficult to imagine them NEVER talking about the game outside of the thread, although Suited and I tried very hard to do so. Perhaps it won't be a big deal now that Wes has self-exiled.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    I don't think that either should die from the action, but I think some sort of penalty is within reason.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    Wicked:I am about to goto work, but will do my best to be back at deadline. Let them screw around. We'll burn their arses.


    Sure would be nice.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    ok, fojar has to go tonight.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    be very careful...............in response to fojar. I think he is baiting us because he was given san's results up to this point and is looking for someone to jump on Jane.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    oh man, I think this is game over. If he has san's results, we are dead.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    ok, we need to figure out how we can still prevail. If fojar has san's results, he has 2 other investigations hidden. If that is 2 other innocents, that gives 3 known innocents. Packone goes today, leaving us at 5/2 after we take out fojar tonight hopefully before he reveals the other 2 investigations but something tells me that is not the case. at 5/2, there will be 2 known innocents that will get a lot of credit from the other innocents.

    blah, this is hurting my head
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    ok, game plan. If he has me, I think the only way we can possibly get this is to have scrote false claim and I vote for fojar right now as a BS plan he has. Jane can then also come along as fojar has indicated her as mafia so she will think he is full of it as well.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    hmmm, maybe not. I can vote for him immediately, scrote can sit quiet per NJ :) We leave fojar alone tonight, meaning he is not innocent deputy and the town takes him out tomorrow.

    6/3 right now.
    Pack goes today. 6/2
    someone innocent goes besides fojar. 5/2
    Hopefully fojar goes. 4/2 but reveals he was truthful.
    night kill 3/2 depending on what fojar reveals. It will either be 2 inno's, 1 inno/1mafia, no way 2 mafia cause then game is over already and he is just toying with us right now.

    We have to get really lucky. We cannot risk a false reveal as that will automatically give us away.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    Maybe someone suggests that we try and figure out Fojar today by lynching Jane? Can't be one of us, I don't think.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    ok, I am going to lunch now, but I am going to hide a while I think.
  22.  
    What do you make of Nsides opening D4 comment ?

    "I assume all the insane detectives will understand if I don't humor them with imaginary results."

    Any clues there as to fojar getting Sans results ?
  23.  
    ok if we assume fojar really is the deputy, and he got Sans results How does this sound...

    fojar has pack + 3

    currently

    6/3

    Pack gets lynched

    6/2

    Fojar will reveal his 3 (is the jane thing bait ?)
    NK Fojar

    5/2

    If he has two mafia we are fucked, game over.
    If he has 1 mafia and 2 inno's

    Lynch Mafia, Christ I hope this is me...

    5/1

    NK Known Inno

    4/1 1 known Inno

    Best case scenario from here

    Lynch Inno

    3/1

    NK Known Inno

    2/1

    Last day
  24.  
    Whats the odds of Jane not turning up and Fojar not revealing, gotta be pretty slim.

    If Jane doesnt turn up we deffo hit Fojar one way or the other.

    Wicked, it might be best if you dont post again, then if we get the best case scenario Jane will look bad.
  25.  
    In one of Sans posts he mentions one or two mafia posting out of a list.

    He puts MX and me at the top of the list.


    Here it is

    ***
    Let's see, who's posted so far...

    Sullen
    MX
    Jane
    Wes
    Nut
    KT
    Bugs
    San

    Money down that at least two but not four of these are mafia.
    ***


    Ok, Fojar is fucking with us look at the first three names.
    • CommentAuthorVile (MX)
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2007
     
    hmmm, I just thought of something. Fojar only has 2 other investigations not 3. He has Packone, and 2 others. I really don't think that San would have investigated me because he has such a good read on me. Time will tell.
  26.  
    Scrote says:
    Evening
    MX says:
    hey
    Scrote says:
    Houston I think we are fucked !
    MX says:
    very well could be.
    MX says:
    but not just yet.....
    MX says:
    some of san's investigations could be dead
    MX says:
    and there are only 2 unknown investigations
    Scrote says:
    se my last post in the den thread
    MX says:
    so fojar could be just fishing to try and get us to slip up
    MX says:
    yes, but that post was only after 1investigation. There's no way that San had us at that point
    Scrote says:
    agreed, but if thats the order he did the investigations
    Scrote says:
    I know why he posted Jane as Mafia
    Scrote says:
    Why the hell he would investigate me first is beyond me but...
    MX says:
    I wouldn't worry about that list, just don't go posting it :)
    Scrote says:
    I have no intention of posting that lol
    Scrote says:
    I also think Fojar is now sitting patiently waiting for one of us to post
    MX says:
    i'm posting
    MX says:
    stay out if you can
    MX says:
    it's likely that you are going to be the last one
    MX says:
    you need to pull a Wes
    Scrote says:
    I think I will post nothing further today and plead call out to attend a major fault at work :)
    MX says:
    Now, we need to think this through carefully. Pack goes today.
    MX says:
    If Fojar does not correct himself about Jane, we kill fojar
    MX says:
    then it is confirmed that fojar is deputy
    MX says:
    jane goes tomorrow as an auto lynch
    Scrote says:
    agreed
    MX says:
    6/3, then 6/2, then 5/2, then 4/2 and we have a shot
    MX says:
    I suspect that he is just using this as bait right now though. Just hope he gets caught not being able to post
    Scrote says:
    that would the best outcome, fojar cant post and Jane doesnt turn up
    MX says:
    oh, I could care less if Jane shows up. Everyone will ignore her awaiting the outcome tonight
    Scrote says:
    I just think it looks more suspicious for Jane if she doesnt turn up to defend herself
    MX says:
    well, that makes our job easier for sure
    MX says:
    but the key is whether or not fojar reveals he was "tempting" the bad guys to go after Jane
    MX says:
    he said he will be back later on to vote pack and to discuss san's other investigations
    Scrote says:
    btw I pretty sure Fojar has Pack +3 not Pack +2
    MX says:
    how can he?
    MX says:
    everyone has had 3 investigations
    Scrote says:
    Pack was the rsult of the 4th investigation
    Scrote says:
    Pack was Sans night 3 inv
    MX says:
    not necessarily
    MX says:
    San was not around!
    Scrote says:
    hmm, that could have a significant impact on whats going on
    MX says:
    it said that his last investigation, not the investigation of hte night he is killed
    Scrote says:
    yeah, bet nside laughed himself silly at that one
    Scrote says:
    :)
    Scrote says:
    actually no think about it
    Scrote says:
    nside said that San had the cell phone picture of pack killing him
    Scrote says:
    that HAS to be N3
    Scrote says:
    which means fojar has pack +3
    MX says:
    oh shit
    Scrote says:
    yup.
    MX says:
    back to the drawing board
    Scrote says:
    I think we might need force majeur to pull this off
    MX says:
    dam, you are right.......
    MX says:
    that means that the innocents got 2 rng's right
    Scrote says:
    2 rng's ?
    MX says:
    I'm explaining further in the den
    Scrote says:
    ok
    Scrote says:
    will cut n paste this for posterity