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    • CommentAuthornsidestrate
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2007 edited
     
    Welcome, all. Good luck to you. I can't introduce you, because I don't know who you are. Wynton will have to take care of that.
  1.  
    I'm guessing I'm the first one here.

    I'd just like to say Wooopeeeh :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2007
     
    Welcome everyone.
  2.  
    First thought is without knowing who any of you are) that any of us in danger of being executed should claim Hero, as the king would be reluctant to take that chance, probably.

    Of course the problem here is going to be reading the king, since he only gets to cast one vote a day.

    A particular problem will arise if the king is anyone remotely tricky. So perhaps you shouldn't insta roleclaim unless you're certain his vote will end up on you.

    ...

    Other random thoughts:

    If one of us gets to be king for a day, should we execute our own, or play simple and take down a villager? Noy sure yet - it certainly depends on teh context of the game.

    I guess we dont care mucha bout who the kingmaker is, at least initially. Toward the endgame it will be nice to narrrow him down, especially heading into a final day, because there's a possibility that we can force him into picking a mafia on the last day.

    As usual though we are hell-bent on finding the detective / detective(s). Usual clues are being overly defensive of other players, being overly aggressive towards us, and things like "you'll regret lynching me - you'll see". Or there are Darvon style "What should the detective do?" posts - unlikely but possible.

    --

    Things to do:

    Play innocent when posting.

    Attack us. Defend us. Do anything the hell you want to us. Do not be afraid of lynching off all the rest of your team mates if it gives you deep deep cover

    Any rule queries should be asked in the game thread. I think a lot of us should post questions in our first posts based on the fact that this game is a new structure that most people will not be familiar with - we do not want innos to think we may have external sourcesx feeding us the info. That said, we probably shouldn't all do so (however many of us there are).

    All from me for now. Can you tell who it is yet? ;)
  3.  
    I'm running off to dinner soon and don't have much time right now. These girls are quite confusing, but I think it'll help us out.

    Are we allowed to reveal who we are in here or no?
  4.  
    I hope so, otherwise it's going to get mighty confusing.

    -San.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2007
     
    Yes, by all means, reveal your identities here. You only have different names because Nside thought it a good precaution.
  5.  
    I'm tempted to play it blind whilst i still have next to no clue...

    Wynton, any chance you can put me out of my misery as to who my team mates are?

    I'd like to at least know that much before the game thread starts, and to get rid of this nagging thught in the back of my mind telling me to play it blind.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2007
     
    Here's your cast:

    San (Frankenstein)
    BB88 (Invisible man)
    Fojar (Dracula)
    TRK (The Mummy)

    The last two have not yet responded to their PMs (nor have many others in the game). So, it may be a while before we actually start anything in the game thread.
  6.  
    That's a pretty strong Den.

    First comment would be that both of TRK and Fojar were mobbed up in their last games and both got lynched. Both should focus on slightly changing their games I think.

    TRK - just think of something that typically makes someone a likely mafia candidate that no one's commented on in teh thread and say it - about anyone. One of us if you want - that should be pretty easy :-) Then do the same for as many people as you can. Your image is one of an "useful innocent" so all you need to do is replicate that...don't spout generic comments all day long and you'll avoid the lynch.

    BTW why N0 kill? :-( - Pie, when you see this - that was a lucky escape for you :wink:
  7.  
    I'm here - bandaged up!
  8.  
    I'm just reading up on all the rules...
  9.  
    Good to see you TRK :)

    Just some scheduling info, then Im off to bed:

    I am stupidly busy at work this week. Unlikely to be around at all before 8pm ever and need decent night's sleep....which with a game of mafia involved usually means at least 3 hours.

    Either way I probably wont be the conversation driver i've been known to play in the past, but I will try to be hyperactive when I'm about. It would be useful if we could all be about at the same point a few time to try and build up some intra game thread relationships.
  10.  
    I take your last point... but, something I noticed in my last game was that mafia do seem to cluster and there were lots of points in the thread where two or more of us were pinging off each other.

    It looked odd to me. Might just have been accidental but it's nothing I've ever noticed in any other game I've played.

    Scheduling is tricky for me too at the moment. I'm not exactly on firm ground with the boss so my day time posts may well be sporadic for the rest of this week. Evenings and early mornings should be fine though.

    BTW: I hope we all get to live for a while. A San inspired den would be too good to miss!
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2007
     
    Just letting you guys know that I'm still waiting confirmation from Fojar and another person that they have received their roles.

    At this rate, we might not get started until the morning.
  11.  
    i'm here, if i'm going to look innocent, i'm going to need some help finding things to say about people.

    i'm really bad at seeing guilt where there isnt any.

    i can just focus on one of us, but then if they get excecuted, or if i become the king and dont act on my suspicions, hosed.

    basically i'm gonna need help seeing guilt

    okay that's all for now, i'llbe back later
  12.  
    Frankenstein:

    Any rule queries should be asked in the game thread. I think a lot of us should post questions in our first posts based on the fact that this game is a new structure that most people will not be familiar with - we do not want innos to think we may have external sourcesx feeding us the info. That said, we probably shouldn't all do so (however many of us there are).


    for you to ask a question, it had better have to do with some nth level thinking.

    i dont know about trk and bb88, but i probably wont be asking any questions.
  13.  
    okay this is great, no doctor.

    so one of my first posts is going to be a warning to the detective, about how they need to time things right etc, since there's no doctor.

    hopefully this will shut them up a bit, and make it easier for us to find them

    finding blues is the one thing i really look forward to when i'm mafia, it's the only thing i'm decent at.

    i'm pretty bad at looking green, as you saw last game, but hopefully i can do a little bit better with your help.
  14.  
    bb - if you can't lie then be honest. Say what makes people honest. It's really great for us when you die if you've been saying how a few innos look really inno. And calling innocents innocent tends to make them trust you more.

    Fojar - the best plan is probablyto read the thread, making notes on people as you go, then make conclusions up based on those notes. It's great :-D
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2007
     
    Oh, you're here Fojar.

    I just sent you a PM asking for you to confirm you received your role, but I guess this is unnecessary now.
  15.  
    Any advice for your new King? :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2007
     
    I have no advice, but it's interesting to see a mobster chosen as the first king.
  16.  
    It can only be good news for us providing the town doesn't give me a nasty slate like: Pizza, San, bb88.
  17.  
    I've got a funny feeling that Pie may be a special of some description but probably not Kingmaker.

    Kingmaker is likely to be someone who wants me on the spot early on, someone who saw my performance in Game 17 and wants to me to repeat it... could be a few: Pizza, NJ, cyb, MX. I think our N1 kill has to come from those four. Though I wouldn't mind killing off MX or cyb today if there's a chance.
  18.  
    we dont have to worry about kingmaker really, especially if they're picking us as kings.

    we need to find detective post haste.
  19.  
    ughhh post haste what is wrong with me

    but seriously, i'm bad at finding anything to say, i'll try taking notes, but i cant guarantee anything, and i'm gonna be pretty obvious again.
  20.  
    pie is looking like the detective.

    even if he's not, it's a good kill.
  21.  
    there's one thing i'm worried about, and that's that the kingmaker essentially knows who the mafia is after they die, and can choose a new kingmaker based on that info.

    basically they get to choose kingmakers who are on the money. if the town figures that out, this will be a short game.
  22.  
    with that in mind, we want to try to make sure that we DONT hit the kingmaker.
  23.  
    Have you made an appearance in the thread yet fojar?

    Anyone you think we should be going for with my vote?
  24.  
    I'm here.
  25.  
    I have class. Thoughts on my opening? I'm literally trying to play it as an inno, spreadsheet and all.
  26.  
    i looked to page three earlier, didnt have enough time to really do anything.

    hey maybe i should pull a repeat of last game, but with one of you, and clear you packone style.
  27.  
    The Invisible Man:I have class. Thoughts on my opening? I'm literally trying to play it as an inno, spreadsheet and all.


    Good stuff. Wish I was capable of that.

    I'm running around like mad trying to do 10 things at once. I'm having dinner then I should be back for my kingly duties!
  28.  
    i'll catch up on the thread later, probably 6PM EST ish

    anyways, classsssssstiem
  29.  
    Jeez, I wish one of you guys was around to explain all this to me.

    I can't help but feel the KM reveal could kill us dead in the water - yet I have to go along with it. People are suspicious of me already. Where are you???
  30.  
    What if I kill the KM when they reveal? This would at least give us the same chance of hitting the detective and not have a known innocent around the next day. I realise I'd be dead the next day but the way I play as mafia I don't think it's a massive loss.
  31.  
    AAARGH

    11 friggin pm.

    This is when I get home from work apparently?! I'm not just sing in the game thread about that, sadly.

    Anyway, TRK - I I'd love for you to kill on of the so called heavy-hitters - Pizza? That would really do me nicely, if we can spin a web that makes him look dodgy I'd be in mafia heaven. Kind of.

    Right, off to play innocentaments. I'll probably have a billion thoughts before long, if i dont fall asleep that is.
  32.  
    BTW I'm pretty convinced that having a KM reveal is a terrible strategy for the innos. (see my post in the game thread as to why).
  33.  
    I'm back. Slightly beer affected...
  34.  
    go post drunk!

    Doesn't matter what you say..question the km logic if you like. Just get involved in some "useful" discussions :)
  35.  
    Love the slate TRK :bigsmile:
  36.  
    Thought u might!
  37.  
    I'm quite up for lining MX up for the kill tonight
  38.  
    Any detective tells yet?

    If we can find the slightest trace of a det, you should probably execute him and we can try again if we miss with our night kill.
  39.  
    Still got a sneaking about Pie being one of the specials....
  40.  
    I bet you your entire bankroll that the mafia would not kill a declared kingmaker. They'd have to be idiots.

    Who's gonna declare then???
  41.  
    preliminary read.

    TP = kingmaker. If that's right - We do not take out TP and we have ourselves the endgame we envisaged witha known KM, but with teh added bonus that the innos probably wont know who TP is. :smile:
  42.  
    The Mummy:I bet you your entire bankroll that the mafia would not kill a declared kingmaker. They'd have to be idiots.

    Who's gonna declare then???
    #

    tempting isn't it. :bigsmile:
  43.  
    Frankenstein:preliminary read.

    TP = kingmaker. If that's right - We do not take out TP and we have ourselves the endgame we envisaged witha known KM, but with teh added bonus that the innos probably wont know who TP is. :smile:


    Funnily enough I had the same thought... but only because of a post and an avatar that I misinterpreted.