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    Nutjob:I second the motion that nothing should have been revealed in here ... All that's left when things are revealed is for us in the peanut gallery to pick on all the "obvious" mistakes.

    As one who has never been in this Thread while the game was ongoing, I think it is more fun to play along without any added accurate "intelligence." Speculation is fine...but not actual facts that are unknown to the innocents. I swear I thought that both San and Pizza could be mobbed up especially with the power granted a deceased KingMaker. Until I got in here of course.
    • CommentAuthorcyb
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Nutjob:I second the motion that nothing should have been revealed in here ... All that's left when things are revealed is for us in the peanut gallery to pick on all the "obvious" mistakes.


    This is true. Although there was no way of preventing me from knowing who was who in this setup. No sparing me the agony. Or the ecstasy. I hope.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    If BD has a change of heart and names Wes king tomorrow, this game is in the mafia bag.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Blame TRK. He's the one who gave away the info. I was prepared to be silent the whole time, and in fact, I've avoided saying anything about anyone's identity throughout.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Jane threatens to make a kill in 5 minutes .... side bets?
    • CommentAuthorcyb
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Nutjob:If BD has a change of heart and names Wes king tomorrow, this game is in the mafia bag.


    No more, I can't take it. Jane - issue the order so there's no more chat
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Yeah,

    Dear self,

    If you ever need a secret kept, don't tell TRK :trompet:
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    ok, he's dead.

    Wynton who's getting killed/named king?
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    I think San should kill Jane, but I assume he will kill KT.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    And, lemme guess ... San has given instructions for his kill to go in a little after 11 p.m.??
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Yes, Jane would be the play to fuel the Wes is possibly bad fire
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    San is probably asleep, right? Isn't it like 3:00am over there?
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    Oh yeah, he probably made arrangements. Duh.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    We have passed night, dawn and day in record time.
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    Will Pizza self-kill? Its a hero or goat moment for him.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    I would love if Pizza would just end the game ... but, I think he will ultimately give in to the town's wishes, maybe?

    He does have that stubborn streak ... and he is so convinced it's San ....

    Maybe he'll try to get BD to promise to name Wes King if he self-exectues....
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    The more likely it is that the town might kill Wes next, the more likely Pizza is to kill San.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Good point.

    He's got to think that he would rather control this kill than anyone else controlling the last day's kill, right?
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    He figures it is between San and Wes and he may be more confident he has it right than they do. If he kills San and is wrong, the game is over. However, he may think if he self-kills it is just as bad. It is hard to go against the tribe when it means the whole game.
    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Wonder what happens if the following is posted now:



    Pizza:I vote to execute Pizzabynight.
    with no bolding...........or
    pizza:I vote to execute San
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    520 posts! You guys are worse than the town!:shocked:
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    WooHoo ... I finally didn't make a final day :wink:
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    After one of the shortest nights -- following one of the longgggggggest days -- in the history of ITHica



    Poor Wynton ... we made life tough for him.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    janeg:520 posts! You guys are worse than the town!:shocked:


    Actually, if we didn't know who was whom fairly early, I think that number might be close to double.

    :smoking:
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    So you all figured it out? I am trying to read the thread.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    janeg:So you all figured it out? I am trying to read the thread.


    I think TRK inadvertantly spilled the beans
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Hola Jane. I never got to vote for you this game.
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Nutjob:I second the motion that nothing should have been revealed in here ... All that's left when things are revealed is for us in the peanut gallery to pick on all the "obvious" mistakes.


    3rd'd. For the love of god, fojar is innocent people!
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Hi Wade ... no, lol ... too bad I was still suspicious of you. The vig decoy play was very nicely done :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    janeg:Hi Wade ... no, lol ... too bad I was still suspicious of you. The vig decoy play was very nicely done :bigsmile:


    LOL, worked out for the best, I think.

    Do you think Pizza will buckle or stick with his gut?
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    therivierakid:i think the only hope for the mafia now is for bb88 to be made king and bump off San.

    Don't think it's gonna happen though.

    Quickest ever inno victory!


    Sh*te ... so it's San! D*mn the man
    • CommentAuthorchrisjp100
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007 edited
     
    nsidestrate:He figures it is between San and Wes and he may be more confident he has it right than they do. If he kills San and is wrong, the game is over. However, he may think if he self-kills it is just as bad. It is hard to go against the tribe when it means the whole game.


    Hi Jane. You guys and gals weren't the only ones making it tough on him. I wonder how many pms Wynton got in this game from non living players and outsiders. More than a few.

    I actually thought that both Pizza and San might be bad. Obviously not the case.

    From Pizza's point of view: He either lets himself decide the game or BD decide it. If he self executes then San kills KT and it's BD making San or Wes King and that decides it. So pizza and BD have to discuss things and if they agree there is no problem. Of course pizza has more info than BD so BD has to play the "assume pizza inno" for purposes of their discussion. If BD waffles at all then pizza will execute San. If BD completely convinces pizza that BD will take out San then he may let him do it. Probably not...he won't trust him. QFT--The Words of Wisdom of the Dead fall on deaf ears. Likely pizza will execute San. Highly likely
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    wade:
    janeg:Hi Wade ... no, lol ... too bad I was still suspicious of you. The vig decoy play was very nicely done :bigsmile:


    LOL, worked out for the best, I think.

    Do you think Pizza will buckle or stick with his gut?


    Oops...so it's Pizza? He was acting so overtly bad I figured he must be inno :shamed:
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    If I was in the game I'd probably be doing a big WTF at Pizza today. Esp without TRK spilling the beans earlier.
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    wade:LOL, so it's San and BB huh? That was pretty easy.

    Seriously, if that's the case I wouldn't say the game's lost for the den yet. BB needs to post his ass off today and San is playing a baddie pretty well. Fumseck is in harms way atm and I think San has gotten on Jane's good side for the time being.

    I thought Wes had already pretty much put a target on his back early today as the vig so I tried to cover for him, expecting him to kill BB (like EVERYONE asked) while I took a meaningless NK. Very frustrating, but I like the randomness he brings to the game:cry:

    I am very unsure of who the KM is. My guess is Pizza.


    I thought Wes was the vig too, you have no idea how shocked I was to find out it was Fumseck! Also thought the KM was Pizza.
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Assuming we're not being toyed with by TRK and Wynton, San has put a ton of effort in as a baddie. I'd be pretty lost now I'm sure.
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    wade::) Just got booted for last call myself :bigsmile::bigsmile:

    While I was busy killing brain cells tonight it occured to me - you had the hot seat as king AND detective.

    I find it hard to see how you could have played that wicked combo any better. Well done sir


    Yes MX ... you made an excellent King. And who was your 1st night investigation? Was it really KT? I didn't think you would put it at the top of the list; why did you move Cyb around like that?
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    wade:Assuming we're not being toyed with by TRK and Wynton, San has put a ton of effort in as a baddie. I'd be pretty lost now I'm sure.


    Have to admit, I was pretty much reading San as inno
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    It wasn't KT...I was glad you caught it. I won't say who it is though.
    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    janeg:
    wade::) Just got booted for last call myself :bigsmile::bigsmile:

    While I was busy killing brain cells tonight it occured to me - you had the hot seat as king AND detective.

    I find it hard to see how you could have played that wicked combo any better. Well done sir


    Yes MX ... you made an excellent King. And who was your 1st night investigation? Was it really KT? I didn't think you would put it at the top of the list; why did you move Cyb around like that?


    You are correct Jane that it was not KT who I investigated. It was Wade. I was really hopin someone would pick up on why wade up there so high. I listed KT because I was very comfy with her as an inno and if the town misread me, i was ok with that. As far as Cyb goes, I just knew he had to be inno.
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    wade:It wasn't KT...I was glad you caught it. I won't say who it is though.


    You are going to make me read this entire thread to find it ... revenge for the long day, eh :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    MXRider:
    janeg:
    wade::) Just got booted for last call myself :bigsmile::bigsmile:

    While I was busy killing brain cells tonight it occured to me - you had the hot seat as king AND detective.

    I find it hard to see how you could have played that wicked combo any better. Well done sir


    Yes MX ... you made an excellent King. And who was your 1st night investigation? Was it really KT? I didn't think you would put it at the top of the list; why did you move Cyb around like that?


    You are correct Jane that it was not KT who I investigated. It was Wade. I was really hopin someone would pick up on why wade up there so high. I listed KT because I was very comfy with her as an inno and if the town misread me, i was ok with that. As far as Cyb goes, I just knew he had to be inno.


    Ah, ty. I didn't think it was KT but I totally missed Wade as the investigation. Got puzzled because you had Cyb as 1st choice for King but ranked him lowest on your inno list ... thought you were pulling a San "most suspicious=most innocent" thing
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    MXRider:someone get me a fumseck hammer................


    rotflmao MX
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    MX you played a whale of a game that's for sure. Your last address to the Town is scary. Really scary. GG.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007 edited
     
    You are correct Jane that it was not KT who I investigated. It was Wade. I was really hopin someone would pick up on why wade up there so high. I listed KT because I was very comfy with her as an inno and if the town misread me, i was ok with that. As far as Cyb goes, I just knew he had to be inno.


    A potential game-loser someday.
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Wynton:I assume that those who were chosen as king enjoyed it.


    Ha!
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    Nutjob:
    You are correct Jane that it was not KT who I investigated. It was Wade. I was really hopin someone would pick up on why wade up there so high. I listed KT because I was very comfy with her as an inno and if the town misread me, i was ok with that. As far as Cyb goes, I just knew he had to be inno.


    A potential game-loser someday.


    It made me think of the game TP won because listed him #1 and everyone assumed he was an investigation; it sunk us
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    janeg:
    Nutjob:
    You are correct Jane that it was not KT who I investigated. It was Wade. I was really hopin someone would pick up on why wade up there so high. I listed KT because I was very comfy with her as an inno and if the town misread me, i was ok with that. As far as Cyb goes, I just knew he had to be inno.


    A potential game-loser someday.


    It made me think of the game TP won because listed him #1 and everyone assumed he was an investigation; it sunk us


    That one was painful to watch from the deadthread. In fairness though, it's got to be pretty difficult to list someone as a #1 bad or good without giving away that you're the detective.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    That's a risk you have to take. In this case, I agree that KT was an easy read ... so it worked ... but what if he's wrong? Also, what if the town turns on you after MX is dead? Wasted investigation ...

    There are some tricks to use...

    He could have found a post that you made and said, there is NO WAY mafia wade says this and then lists you as top inno ... there's other ways to make it work

    It's tough, because detectives usually investigate those they think might be bad and they have to find a way to get them to top inno ... but there are ways, without it becoming too obvious... Some people like to be cute and list an investigated mafia as innocent, so the mob won't kill them ... when that happens - I think it happened to Packone and that's what Jane is talking about .. it can be complete disaster..
    • CommentAuthorjaneg
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    I don't think Pack had actually investigated TP, he just thought he was inno but ranked him #1. When Pack got knocked off, everyone decided he'd investigated TP