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    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    and it seems that my process of elimination was pretty dead on this game as well. If they would just follow my instructions of taking out bb88, bd and San :)
    • CommentAuthorfojar
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    therivierakid:
    wade:Howdy TP - sorry your game got cut so short!

    TRK - any idea if Fojar was 3rd leveling us by using the same "please lynch me" routine as last game, or if he was just not around?


    He really wasn't around. The den was very very quiet. There was hardly a time when two or more of us were posting at once.


    every game i've played i get latched on to for not being as active as everyone else.

    the fact that it's happened twice now while i was mafia is going to make it really really hard for me as an innocent.

    which i have yet to be by the way.
    • CommentAuthorfojar
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    MXRider:and it seems that my process of elimination was pretty dead on this game as well. If they would just follow my instructions of taking out bb88, bd and San :)


    yeah that was some incredibly straight shooting.
    • CommentAuthorfojar
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    there's probably an easier break to this game than the one nside posted.

    all specials claim special, everyone posts a suspect, the kingmaker kings whoever has the right suspect for whichever mafia is left.

    with four mafia i think you can just win with this strategy, as long as the vigi doesnt fire any bullets.
    • CommentAuthorfojar
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    if the humans were to go for it at this point in the game, it would be an easy win.
    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    welcome fojar. I did try and be respsectful to your schooling early on, but when you showed up yesterday afternoon, and were getting "caught up" at the time of deadline, I knew something wasn't right.

    For your sake, I think it would be a seriously good idea to post your schedule before the game begins as real life definitely has impacted you in these games.
    • CommentAuthorfojar
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    heh, that really was coincidence though
    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    San is trying to make a deep run. Once they take out bb88, he will be able to go back and say:

    "Hey, I told you to take out Fojar. I told you to take out BB88. If I am bad, why would I help get rid of 2 of us?"
    • CommentAuthorTall Paul
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    Fumseck gone :sad:

    Hope the vig does as he's asked this time.

    San's doing a good job so far of appearing more innocent.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    Verryyyy interesting.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    I just realized that all specials except mafia are gone. Game has suddenly gotten a lot tighter. Innocents have managed to kill the detective and Vigilante the last two nights.
    • CommentAuthorTall Paul
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007 edited
     
    Interesting indeed. KT to be mafia killed tonight I think. The mafia's chances just got a whole lot better.

    Fumseck should've claimed Vig,I think, when he was looking in danger.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    I may need to find a sub for bb88. I just sent him a PM asking that he confirm he's still playing.

    If I don't hear from him, any suggestions about a sub? I assume it would not work to allow anyone here to do it.
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    Holy Crap!:cry::shocked::surprised::confused:
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    Wynton - My preference would be to leave him as is if he made any indication that he's be playing UTR this game. If not and he really has just totally MIA I think you need to wait on him to confirm he needs a sub one way or the other. Your call.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    I am definitely giving him the chance to appear before doing anything. Like I said, I'll wait a reasonable time (perhaps 24 hours) to see if he replies to my PM.
    • CommentAuthorTall Paul
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    I agree with Wade. If he did need a sub, it certainly couldn't be anyone from here, particularly as you just indicated that all specials are gone.
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    Tall Paul:Interesting indeed. KT to be mafia killed tonight I think. The mafia's chances just got a whole lot better.

    Fumseck should've claimed Vig,I think, when he was looking in danger.


    I was wondering the same thing - why didn't he declare?
    • CommentAuthorTall Paul
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2007
     
    wade:
    Tall Paul:Interesting indeed. KT to be mafia killed tonight I think. The mafia's chances just got a whole lot better.

    Fumseck should've claimed Vig,I think, when he was looking in danger.


    I was wondering the same thing - why didn't he declare?

    Maybe he was too embarrassed after shooting the detective :tongue:
    • CommentAuthorfojar
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    Wynton:I just realized that all specials except mafia are gone. Game has suddenly gotten a lot tighter. Innocents have managed to kill the detective and Vigilante the last two nights.


    if san can manage NOT to hit the kingmaker, who i am thinking is pie, then he may have a small chance.

    or if nobody is thinking that he's guilty when the kingmaker gets hit, because otherwise the dead kingmaker just chooses a kingmaker who thinks san is guilty
    • CommentAuthorfojar
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    i personally would love to know who the kingmaker is right now.
    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    someone get me a fumseck hammer................
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007 edited
     
    I need some views about a possible sub at this stage.

    I don't think bb has been seen for 2 days. Last night, I sent him a PM, asking what's up. How much time do you think he should be given?

    And I have two thoughts for a possible sub: Bugs and Nutjob. I don't know if Bugs is interested. I haven't asked either yet. Is there a problem asking Nut?
    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    I'm kinda torn at thsi point on this sub/not sub thing. Part of me says to let it go. He knew the game was going on. Part of me says to boot him and possible penalize him from the next game for letting his team down with no logical reasons at htis point.
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    I don't like subbing Nut, I think it would need to be a new player if you do it. I think bb has gone AWOL a few times in mafia now.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    It sounds like Bugs is willing. So I just need to decide how much time to give bb.
    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    oh, I agree with having it be someone new.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    So how much longer should I wait for bb?
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    I just checked. Looks like bb was last seen on Thursday, around 5 pm est.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    BB replied to my PM. Turns out he had some computer issues, but is now back.
    • CommentAuthorMXRider
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    wonder how the town will react to this
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    I suspect that the town will give bb a little leeway, provided he really shows an effort soon.
    • CommentAuthorTall Paul
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007 edited
     
    Wynton:I suspect that the town will give bb a little leeway, provided he really shows an effort soon.

    You're probably right.

    I imagine San held off with the night kill with the main purpose of implicating Pie. Pie seems to think so as well.
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    We're up to 138 pages at the beginning of day four. Is it my imagination, or is that a lot?

    Perhaps the unusual format has led to an increase in posts?
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    Like I said in my dying PM to you Wynton, I think it speaks to a good format with lots of interest.
    • CommentAuthorTall Paul
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    The innocents seem intent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory here. I agree with Pie that the Kingmaker should reveal today, a known innocent could be a big help to them. Cyb as Kingmaker?
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    I thought Pizza as KM.

    The town is really off in the weeds today. If I was in the game I'm sure I would be too.
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    Attaboy BD:

    "Pizza ...

    You're tunnel visioned.

    You've got San as inno and me as mafia.

    It's impacting your game."
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    LOL I think BB just posted in the wrong thread :bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    Let me ask you guys a question:

    Do you think the King should be allowed to kill himself? Would this be good for the game, bad, or neutral?
    • CommentAuthorwade
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    I'm nuetral, but I think there may already be a loophole built in to allow the king to suicide with out penalty by refusing to vote:

    "(5) Each day must end in an execution. "No Lynch" is not an option in this game. If I post a deadline and the King fails to make an execution in the allotted time, the King will be executed for his incompetence. "

    My preferance would be to allow the king to suicide by officially posting to execute no-one.
    • CommentAuthorfojar
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2007
     
    i think king suicide is okay as long as it's not a "human strategy" thing, where if you dont commit suicide you're mafia or whatever.

    that said, any king who commits suicide is an idiot.
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    I think Pie has a variant of my strategy in mind. 5 live players, one mafia means an auto win because of the KM picking their replacement. The KM names the next KM based on who the mafia player is using one of the methods we discussed earlier. The thing he may be missing is that this will force the last mafia player to false declare and leaves a 50/50 instead of the sure win he plans.
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    What's the current SOP? Who's left alive? I haven't been following the thread very closely.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2007
     
    Tonight was one of the most entertaining nights in ITH mafia history.

    I was actually relieved to be NKd, but after seeing tonight's action, I really, really, wish I had been in there. Fascinating stuff.

    The very interseting thing will be if the town ever gets together completely. It seems almost every player has one of the mafia nailed .. but they are directly opposed to each other in other ways.

    There is a good chance that one of the mafia will slip through unscathed if he can play a part in the other one going down - he's already tried and will probably succeed.

    IF this happens ... he will probably have to keep his biggest opponent alive for a while (I think) and things could come down to the buzzer.

    Now, if Pie's plan is adopted, none of this may matter ... but I have a feeling the town, and most importantly, the KM, wil oppose.

    This is really awesome stuff. Great game.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2007
     
    btw, I've thought Pizza was the KM from early in our arguments. I typed a big YOU when I was talking to him and referring to who it may be and them coming out.

    I assume that's right.
    • CommentAuthorNutjob
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2007
     
    And good decision to not have a current player sub - thankfully bb88 showed up ... If I would have subbed and become a mafia, my head, and the collective head of the town may have exploded.
    • CommentAuthorTall Paul
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2007 edited
     
    I've enjoyed the game as well Nut. I'm glad to be out of it in a way though.

    Pie's plan is good, but I think it's a little bit against the spirit of the game to find loopholes in the rules. For that reason only, I hope they don't go along with it.
    • CommentAuthorTall Paul
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2007
     
    therivierakid:What's the current SOP? Who's left alive? I haven't been following the thread very closely.


    Still alive:
    bbwes
    bb88
    BD
    Cyb
    Jane
    KT
    Pizza
    Pie
    San
    • CommentAuthorWynton
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2007
     
    I haven't read anything for about 12 hours, as I just got in. But I do get the sense (from PMs) that at least a couple of people are getting frustrated, if not upset.

    What's going on over there anyway? Guess I'll read now.