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    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    they can't afford to kill the doctor - as that obviously leaves the detective open that night and they need the detective for at least 1 more investigation at a chance to hit the mafia
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    they would have to conclude that either a) irish is mafia and is lying or b) you are mafia and are lying - it forces them to make a choice and if even 1 falters we win
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    AP and Toro, how long you on for?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    also if you declare doctor and the real doctor comes out we gain SO MUCH MORE
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    Yes, but that would leave the question open who the detective is, if not irish
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I'll be on a long while - gonna start the 55k
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    then we need a fake detective anyway
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    The more I think about it the more it makes sense for you to declare doctor - so many positives so little negatives
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    we don't need a detective - they will ask then who the F--- is detective if not irish? and wait for one to come out - and they will wait to long
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    and the other downside of declaring to be the doctor is that the real doc is out there as well
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    we just need ONE person to be confused
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    he probably wouldn`t declare himself, but certainly wouldn`t believe me ;-)
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    that's an upside Malteg - it forces him to come out
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    there are a lot less negatives to declaring doctor than detective
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    yes, only one person, but I still think I can do that better as the "detective"
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I don`t understand your point so far, sorry
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    okay, if I declare to be the doctor and the real one comes out as well, I get lynched, the doctor dies the next night, and irish 1 night later. So far, so good.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    Here's what I'm thinking....

    Matt, I'll leave it to you if you want to declare as anything. To be honest, I don't think they're going to buy either. All they have to point out is that among all the calls for the Detective to come out, only irish wasn't around.

    IF you think you can convince one innocent to not vote, fantastic. However, we can't really support you in any way. We cannot be linked to you.

    russkijim's had a varied posting schedule, sometimes before, sometimes after SJ. I'm sure it varies on his workload. I say those of us that can hang out and hope he comes on. IF AP can't stick aound, then no biggie. I thikn blending in is still the best option for the rest of us.

    If you declare you should name toom as guilty. That way you can leave your vote in case the rest of us can get a lynching through. The rest of us should probably either vote for no one (stating confusion) or if SJ changes his vote, jump ship to lynch you. That or just not show up at all. (I was htining of taking today off voting wise.)

    Reading this, I'm starting to think there may be a vaiable reason for you to declare as doctor. It buys at least a couple of us justification for not voting today. Or at least posting no one votes until SJ shows up.

    What do you guys think?
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    but if the real doc doesn`t come out - as he should - they`ll lynch me anyway, saying "If you are really the doctor, you are no longer of any use since the mafia now knows your identity. So die!"
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    OK the positives of declaring doctor are:

    1) They cannot afford to kill the doctor, they know this and may falter

    2) It forces them to make a decision between you and irish

    3) There's a 50/50 chance doctor will come forward and declare - meaning we now have identified both special characters.

    4) This exposes no extra mafia and since there's a good chance they'll lynch you anyway this all of the above is GREAT.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    In either scenario, you need to point out that all the mafia has to do is get the town to lynch one innocent, and the game is over. It may persuade one person.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    Toom, SJ and Spoonie are all very persuadable
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    is one of you currently online on ITH as hidden?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I am
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    if so, there are currently no innocents around
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    okay
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I see 3 hidden online?
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I'm hidden too.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    Do you see downsides of declaring to be the detective? I`ll probably go with that - it just feels better to me
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    OK so there are no innocents on right now
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    the downsides are you are obviously not detective based on your previous posts - it's too see-through a claim
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I could declare that "fancy play syndrome". And of course I would point out the question why irish wasn`t able to post the whole weekend, but could read the whole thread and sending investigations to nside.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I could declare that "fancy play syndrome"

    I don't understand that?
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    Irish`s posts look as if he had to pay for every word he types. I think I could make this better and maybe convince 1 innocent
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    it's your skin and I won't/can't stop you - but I object
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    fancy play syndrome - trying to be too clever. I wanted the mafia to believe that I am certainly NOT the detective, so they don`t need to kill me
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    you can try it I think the doctor claim seems more reasonable . . . but I might be thinking about this wrong
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    Okay, I will make some test posts here. Please tell me when I screw things up
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    Aupanner, ey - you guys have any thoughts on this?
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I don't see how him declaring as detective or doctor hurts. Remember, all we're looking for is one innocent to pause.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    If that can be arranged, then all we have to do is not get too creative and vote to kill the detective.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    TEST START

    Okay guys, it`s 5 am, I didn`t sleep well, and I will have to go to the university soon, where I will have hardly any internet access. And I know how suspicious it sounds when a second detective comes out. But yet I still have to do it.

    I am the detective.

    Here what I did so far:
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    If matt's most comfortable with detective, then he should go for it.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    shouldn't one of us pretend to be swayed by malteg?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    Malteg I don't think that sounds convincing at all

    Look at wyntons coming out post
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    definitely yes, toro
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    on which page is that?
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    how would you write it? At least you guys are native-English speakers, so you would probably do a better job here
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I said I thought he was innocent, and irish was mafia in my list earlier. I can probably do it.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2006
     
    I wouldn't say something like I know it looks bad. It just puts the doubt in their head.