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    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Now that I look at it, he posted that waiting to lynch for a day was a good idea, therefore toro being adamant about lynching someone is probably what's making him suspicious.
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    You might have a point about being Detective like...I don't remember pie being terribly suspicious about Toro on day 1...
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Hmmm... reading through pie's posts, he's been a big advocate of not lynching anyone and letting the detective work. Another tell?

    I don't like the leadership role he's taken. I'd like to take him out, but it will domm toro. If toro gets lynched I say we take out pie, everyone else he suspected was innocent.

    That leaves us for the thewhale lynching holds up. We can go three ways:

    First, take out a leader. Pie and Cicerous have both fingered toro. One of those two will lead to a toro lynching, unless the town can be convinced it's the old we want them to take out toro so we lynched pie/cicerous thing. I'm not sure it'll fly.

    Second, we take out someone to protect toro, so someone who's been advocating someone else pretty strongly.

    Third, we take out a small poster, giving no real information. It could lead to a toro lynching, or somone else. It's also possible we take out a special character.

    I'm really going to want toro's input on this, I feel like this could be a major point in the game. We can come back if toro gets lynched, but we need a plan.

    Toro, no offense, but I think it may be a bad idea for any of us to try and defend you. Asking questions may not be bad. For instance, I fully intend to ask pie why he suspects you if it wasn't the Darvon thing. Is not defending you okay with you?
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Jim, I looked it up. He's listed a couple of concerns with toro both days. First is the insiting on lynching someone. I think toro may have wanted to point out that Nside felt it was a mistake not to lynch someone on day 1 of game 1.

    The second is his switch to voting for Suited. I'm still not sure what's up there. I'd love to see pie accuse an innocent and have him lynched. He's quick to assume a lot of things. Hell he was sure I was mafia in game 1, and I sure as hell wasn't.
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I think if we can't save toro we hit pie or cic. Otherwise, one of the lesser lights should go that doesn't put heat on the rest of us and draws attention away from toro. Although he could well be next anyway.

    I also agree we can't be seen to defend toro but neither should we swap our votes around in a dodgy shep like manner.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I'm headed to bed, so for better or worse my vote's likely to stay for TheWhale. Jim, if you could, give me give me a vote for who to kill if toro is lynched and one if he's not before you head off.
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    You got it. I'll keep an eye on developments.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Oh and give me one if we end up lynching no one. Keep in mind a vote for pie or cicerous will probably kill toro also.
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    okey dokey.
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Momentum may turn back to the whale thanks to spoonie...

    I think it may be better to keep him around.
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    ooh...TRK's starting to piss people off on p. 37.

    If they start investigating people who voted whale we can't kill any on that list, so no ian or damo.

    Maybe ew98 wouldn't be a bad hit...
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    However, if TRK turns the screw on Cic...then maybe we could implicate TRK by killing him.
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    God, I'm all over the shop...

    The only good innocent is a dead innocent as far as I'm concerned...

    If toro dies. Kill cicerus.

    If the whale dies, maybe ew98.

    If no one dies...damo, suited or irish.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006 edited
     
    - removed -
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Should I change my vote to TheWhale?
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    no nononononno!

    Don't vote the whale now...he's already dead!

    Spoonie's going to try and work through the list...

    We need to start getting tactical from tomorrow I think
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    too late ;-(
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Anyhow, I'm out for close to 24 hours I think. I'll go with the Don's suggested kill but i think my list above's not a bad shout.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    But I think it`s not that bad. I always said (even when I was innocent in game #1), that lynching someone is necessary to gain information. I did not vote last time, so I don`t think I should make an "outsider vote" again.
    • CommentAuthorRusskijim
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Bollocks.

    Oh well, I think you're one of the most trusted mob members malt...so you'll probably get away with it.

    I fear for Toro tomorrow though...GL all.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Night has fallen.

    Who to lynch?
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I suggest we kill Cicerius or spoonie.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006 edited
     
    What`s the time of the mafia deadline, nside?
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    It hasn't been important to give a deadline to the mafia in the past. If you made me give you a deadline, I'd probably give you 24 hours.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    okay, thank you!
    • CommentAuthorAuPanner
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Ok, we have reduced the odds down to 11:5, not a bad first 2 days. We have 2 approaches to consider; hit an active poster, or hit a quiet poster. I am in favor of taking a chance to get another "2-fer" like we got yesterday. I will continue my line against TRK that I started yesterday in my defense of Whale, so we might get TRK lynched on day 3. So, who to wack now? My gut leans to damo or irishiaian as special characters, and hitting them gives few new leads to us.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    OK I'm on - guys I don't want you to defend me because 1) I don't think it will be necessary and 2) If they do find me to be guilty they will vote for people who defended me.

    reason behind 1: There are bigger targets out there than me ATM. TRK, Toom, SJ - they all look much more suspicious than me and will probably go under the guillotine tommorow.

    Who to lynch:
    We definitely don't want to lynch Toom - if you look as I predicted they percieved the landslide starting with Toom rather than me - meaning that Toom will be on top of thier list.

    Cicerous: Has suggested going through the list of people who voted for whale - this would include almost entirely non-mafia members (I think we only placed 1/3 of the votes). He is dangerous but I don't think he is that dangerous ATM.

    evv98 - He supported the vote vrs me and really got it some attention . . . I don't think he's voted for anyone else.

    W/E whoever you think should go is your choice.

    The beauty of this is though I am in the lynching line no other mafia are - even if they lynch me they will have a lot of false leads or no leads at all. The purpose of this game is to kill all the innocents. If they kill me they probably won't suspect any of you and as such I don't think I'm that big a liability. I'm not really sure who's the best innocent to lynch and I'll leave it up to the Don. But no matter which who we lynch I don't think I'll be out tommorow - I could be wrong but we will have to see :>)
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006 edited
     
    Also nside if I get killed will I still be able to browse this forum?

    Also who voted for irish?
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    You can browse, but you shouldn't post about anything of substance. The Irish voter changed his vote later and I forgot to remove the irish count. I corrected it.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I think you also messed up the no vote count
    • CommentAuthorAuPanner
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    nside, sorry about the rant yesterday. I'd never filed a formal complaint with the SEC in 23 years of trading so my day was pretty consumed.Fighting with the AmEx, then talking with a bunch of unknown gov't legal types was very stressful I do worry that the town is going to talk me to death!
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    OK so who are we lynching I have to go now So just put me down for whoever is majority
    • CommentAuthorAuPanner
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I don't know who. I favor a low poster like irishiain, but wacking someone like pie or SJ drains their pool of active brains. That's never a bad thing.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Morning...

    Hmmm....

    I hope you're right toro. I think hitting anyone that even mentioned you would be a mistake. I don't want to give them any more ammo.

    I'm not sure who to go for.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I'd like to kill pie, but if we do, toro's gone tommrow. SJ's not a bad option. I still like Damo too.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Pie would be a bad idea now because of Toro.

    What about cicerius?
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    He was the first vote yesterday for toto, but his list also included Suited and Steve. I thikn with pie's suspiciouns that toro would be next.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    hmm... I don`t know.

    At least we shouldn`t lynch irish, Evv and SteveGriff, because they are unlikely to be the detective.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Okay, damo would be fine for me, too.
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    AuPanner said:<blockquote>nside, sorry about the rant yesterday</blockquote>No worries at all.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I am off for a few hours.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I'm liking Damo, I think Suited's a bit risky, as his last post he put toro on his "watch list" which seems to only include toro.

    So?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I guess if we want to keep me around spoonie would be the best choice?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    but I think we could pull off the 2-1 defense if we lynch pie or cicerous
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    also if we kill pie or cicerous and I am the next one killed - they will soon afterward lynch toom I believe
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    so we get 2 night kills + a lynching for me, that's a pretty good deal especially since they will have little else to go on
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I'll be back around 11 or 12pm
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    If you feel like it's worth it, then we can go for it. If we're going to sacrafice you though, I'd like to hit pie.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Remember, the 2 for 1 will still be there. I'm in favor of keeping as many of us alive as possible.

    One of the reasons I like damo, is I suspect he may be a special charachter. So say it goes like this:

    We take out damo
    They lynch you
    We take out pie
    We still may get toom or anyone else pie is suspecting.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    There is no chance that if we take out pie or cicerous, that you won't be gone. I still think there may be a slight chance that you survive today if we don't.

    I'd like to see the toom/TRK thing develop. Plus, I think TRK changing his vote may hrrt him.