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    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Okay, I vote for damo
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    well I came back . . . didn't realize I don't have to leave for an hour or two.

    Anyway if you think damo is right then let's hit him
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I just want something to read for when I come back :)
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    LOL.. .I just think it would be a mistake to sacrafice you. Our numbers are important
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I vote for Damo also. That's three, I think.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Toro, if you think it's worth it to sacrafice you now, I'll go along with it, even though I'm not sure.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    well since you think there's a slight chance I won't be killed if we wack Damo then let's do that - we have 3 votes so fire off the pm
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Alrighty, Just don't get too jumpy. I think you may still get lynched. But there's a slight chance you won't.

    Here's to hoping Damo is a specail!
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    OK so now I do have to go . . . be back in around 5 hours (maybe a little more)
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    LOL... gamemanship. That's priceless.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Man, this no informtion campaign is really messing them up.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Here's my hopes for today.

    1. We all survive.
    2. I wouldn't mind TRK being lynched. Or the dtective coming out for that matter.
    3. If they lynch toro, they waste the day discussing it and don't look 2 moves down the road.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Whom of us might the detective have investigated? Toro maybe, Risskijim probably not because of his low profile. Not sure about the others...
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Should we bring a fake detective in? I must say I don`t like the idea too much, but what do you think?
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    The only one I'd be willing to risk is toro, but he'd have to give one of us up to prove it. It's too risky the real detective will show up.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Yes, and I think 2 of us are too costly for this.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    My thoughts exactly.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    No, the way to bring a detective out would be for one of u to condemn me, that way we only risk the most exposed member (ME). However, I don't see any reason to bring a detective out - they have no leads and they have no idea where to look.

    If I survive today bringing out the fake detective tommorow may be the best option if we decide to do it.

    I personally don't see myself being lynched today after the several posts that have come up. They have accused me and I have defended myself - the only thing that I "messed up on" was being over-zealous about darvon's idea, and frankly other's have been more over-zealous than I in such matters. If I survive today by taking relatively little heat I think we have to then lynch pie or cicerous.

    My ideas on who the detective or doctor might be:

    IT MUST BE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE:
    Cicerous
    Irishiain
    McFoldem
    Piemaster
    Spoonie
    SG
    SJ
    Toom

    I don't think Cicerius is the detective because of his latest post:

    "We've lost five innocents, and as far as I can see we don't have any strong candidates for a lynching . . .Unless someone has another plan we need to at least consider the Detective coming out."

    I think irishiain may be the doctor or detective (leaning towards doctor) for 2 reasons:
    1) He has not mentioned either the doctor or detective a single time (basically his same strategy for when he was in the mafia).
    2) He has not accused ANY of us (barely anyone in fact) so if he is the detective he knows NOTHING.

    I don't think McFoldem is Detective: look at his latest post he is WAY off - not only on theories but facts as well, if he is the detective it may be more useful keeping him around :). As per his post on the bottom of page 28 - he is not following the voting himself rather he is relying on nside (the detective or doc would probably want to be more organized).

    Pie MIGHT be the detective this post is very striking:
    "I have had my suspicions about Toro since Day 1 and not because he supported the Darvon plan."

    Also this post by pie is kind of putting him in the detective seat:
    "I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world if we didn't lynch anyone today, not while the detective is still alive and detectiving." HE IS THE FIRST (and one of only 2) PEOPLE TO SUGGEST NOT LYNCHING - only the detective would have any real motivation/knowledge to propose stopping a lynching. He also proposes lists on day 1 (nobody is following the suggestion thankfully) which would be a great boon to him if he is the detective.

    Spoonie might also be detective: He seems to trust pie immensly for no particular reason (page 36 middle). But honestly I don't think he is - he is just way too jumpy (as in he's all over the place).

    Steve asks a lot of questions but doesn't really commit to anything at all - I think he may be the doctor.

    SJ - I just don't know SJ usually very vocal (in IRC and on the board) yet in this game he is pretty quiet. Apparently I am the only one on his "watch list"? Anyway because of his quietness he may be the doctor I don't think he's the detective.

    Toom - if you read his post after Darvon's lynching he is overly defensive, this may be because he knows he MUST survive. (I don't think the same can be said of TRK because he asks us to lynch him and he is speaking TO the detective).

    I think we definitely need to lynch one of these people tommorow - preferably:
    Irishiain
    Piemaster
    SG
    SJ
    Toom

    We have a 2/5 chance of being correct right now . . . if we are wrong than the next night it's 50/50.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Excellnt post toro. I agree with you 100%
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    I was just thinking (not really game related), the town's going to be shocked with how many posts we've got here.

    Maybe that way TRK won't be shocked it takes us so long to decide. :D
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    From that list, Irishian may be special. The beauty of kiliing him is his lack of acusations. It can work more than one way for us.

    Pie - I've been eyeing that first day post too.

    SG - No cluse if he's a special or not, I still think he may get himself lynched.

    SJ - It is weird how little he's been posting. Has he been in IRC much? Real life does affect me as well, so I know how he feels.

    toom - I'm still not sure what's up with toom. Like I said yesterday, if we see a pretty big flip in his stance towards TRK I think we may have our Detective. He was very adamant about lynching him today if TheWhale was innocent. I'd like to see his posts today.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2006
     
    Oh yeah and I love how I waited a while to post my vote last night so as not to be close to one of us, and end up posting within minutes of toom and irishiain. 2/3 innocent's not too bad.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Also McFoldem's post is totally off - he says I didn't vote for anyone on day 2 :).

    If you look at his list almost everyone is innocent :).

    How are we playing so well - we never even came up with a real strategy?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    I'm thinking that we have the advantage because we havn't tried to pull any of the shit that they tried in game 1 + game 2
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Could be, also we've done a good job limiting the town's information. In my mind that's important.

    I have a feeling today's the key day. I fully expect the the Detective to come out and give them one of our names. he would have had to stumble across us at some point. I just hope it's only one of us, and if it's one of us it's you toro. :)

    I really hope he's gone oh-fer on his investigations.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    WoW if you look at the number of posts each of the mafia have within the game it's baffling:

    Toronexti: 9 posts
    Malteg: 18 posts
    Risskijim: 13 posts
    Aupanner: 4 posts
    Ey: 15 posts

    All of the mafia together have 59 posts!

    that's 59/578 = 10.21%

    No wonder they have no idea who the mafia is - that and they are assuming we would have 1 or 2 really out there guys which is confusing them even more.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Alrighty... I really am off to bed. See ya'll tommorow afternoon.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    I think for the innocents this is like playing battleship - and when you play battle ship you don't aim for the small 2 square ship (forgot the name call it a tug) - you aim for the HUGE 5 square ship (the aircraft carier). That's what they are doing now aiming for the obvious aircraft cariers (TRK) while ignoring the little tugs all around (US).

    BTW battleship used to be one of my favorite games :)
    • CommentAuthornsidestrate
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006 edited
     
    ey215 posted:<blockquote>I was just thinking (not really game related), the town's going to be shocked with how many posts we've got here. </blockquote>You guys are actually slackers. The game two mafia thread has about 3,000 posts (although half of them are from chrisjp).
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    As long as they have not much information, we shouldn`t even think about a fake detective.
    • CommentAuthorAuPanner
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Finally able to log on! I had 6 hours of additional tutoring students on Friday night, last one ended after 2300, then I had to teach Saturday morning classes. Man, my butt is dragging. I have soooo much reading to catch up on. Damo was a good choice, it gave them little to go on. Well Done, Mafia!
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Just read through the new posts. Nothing solid for the innocents there - apparently they have abandoned voting for me and are focusing on TRK and SJ (personally I do think TRK will be easier to lynch).

    I really have no idea on this detective thing, I was thinking if tommorow rolls around and an innocent is killed today and we kill an innocent (or hopefully kill the doctor who I think at this point is more important than the detective because without the doctor the detective HAS to have 3-4 mafia discovered before coming out) so the count will be 8-5.

    Count 8-5 (we killed doctor):
    If we kill the doctor I think it is simple for us to bring forward our own detective and name an innocent. This has 3 effects:
    1) We ensure an innocent kill that day (especially if they are trying to lynch one of us)
    2) It will probably expose the real detective who we can easily kill that night
    3) we lose a mafia the next day
    This is a 2-1 deal but we also eliminate the detective.

    Count 8-5 (We kill detective):
    This is also great for us, w/out the detective the doctor is useless to the innocents - here none of us have to be exposed and can easily continue killing innocents no problem (and we will most probably win the game soon after). Obviously this is what we want (we also eliminate any str8 up knowledge the detective would've given.

    Count 8-5 (We kill innocent):
    This is the most volatile (and probable) situation. We will have to play it by ear.

    BTW I no longer think that SJ is Det/Doc - meaning we got a 50/50 shot.

    I had another thought but I forgot what it was :)
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    OK so our list for tonight is:

    Irishiain
    Piemaster
    SG
    Toom

    I'm really leaning towards pie or Toom
    • CommentAuthorAuPanner
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    I am composing a pretty long post reiterating my view that TRK wrongly started theWhale's lynching. I was the lone vote for TRK yesterday and I am thinking of being consistent with that today. What are the problems with getting TRK lynched?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    There are no problems with TRK being lynched
    • CommentAuthorAuPanner
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Anyone here? I'm about to post.
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Works for me
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Anyone see this post by pie?

    All I ask is that if I ever come under serious suspicion you give me the chance to defend myself before you push a vote through. Thanks." "

    Ummm... special char?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    yeah that's what I was thinking ey
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    My post okay you think? I really am hoving to do a double. Damnit.
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    let me read it again
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    when's the deadline? I might not vote today
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    yes in fact I probably won't - upsides/downsides to this move?
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006 edited
     
    actually I'm thinking there's a better chance that pie is the doctor?

    "1. The detective should reveal himself today if and only if he knows 2 mafia or we try to lynch a known innocent (and it is early enough so he can ensure detective protection). Otherwise he should wait until tomorrow."

    That doesn't sound like the detective, I just remembered that there is also the vigilante about . . . maybe this is pie
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    we've totally forgotten the vigilante guys - so it'd be stupid to bring out a fake detective while he's around
    • CommentAuthorey215
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Wow.. TRK just voted for himself. A page from the SuitedPair playbook. Alrighty, I'm off to work. Laters.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    I won`t vote today either, as it seems.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    I hope some of the other innocents vote for TRK, but there is a decent possibility nobody will get lynched
    • CommentAuthortoronexti
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    are you guys reading the thread - I'm literally cracking up at how everyone is suspecting everyone except us . . . this is the funniest thing ever.
    • CommentAuthormalteg
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2006
     
    Yes, I thought the same!!! ;-)